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	<title>Comments on: Trying to get some more soundsystem related progress</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: netchild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.freebsdish.org/netchild/2006/09/24/trying-to-get-some-more-soundsystem-related-progress/#comment-1192</link>
		<dc:creator>netchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

problem 1: do a "sysctl -a &#124; grep latency". If something shows up in the sound system related area increase the value and try again (I have to use 64 for my snd_es137x). If this doesn't help, ask on multimedia@FreeBSD.org.

problem 2: Search the multimedia@ mailinglist. Someone @FreeBSD.org wrote a plugin which uses OSS instead of ALSA (the flash developers provided some hooks for just this reason).

cups/cuss: CUPS is a userland solution for hardware which is connected externally via a connection which allows this. In the soundsystem only an USB audio driver would be possible in userland, but you would need special applications using this userland solution. All real soundcards ("real" as in connected to the PCI bus) need some stuff in the kernel. So you have to write kernel stuff in any case. So you can't use CUPS as a pattern here.

Bye,
Alexander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>problem 1: do a &#8220;sysctl -a | grep latency&#8221;. If something shows up in the sound system related area increase the value and try again (I have to use 64 for my snd_es137x). If this doesn&#8217;t help, ask on <a href="mailto:multimedia@FreeBSD.org">multimedia@FreeBSD.org</a>.</p>
<p>problem 2: Search the multimedia@ mailinglist. Someone @FreeBSD.org wrote a plugin which uses <span class="caps">OSS</span> instead of <span class="caps">ALSA </span>(the flash developers provided some hooks for just this reason).</p>
<p>cups/cuss: <span class="caps">CUPS</span> is a userland solution for hardware which is connected externally via a connection which allows this. In the soundsystem only an <span class="caps">USB</span> audio driver would be possible in userland, but you would need special applications using this userland solution. All real soundcards (&#8220;real&#8221; as in connected to the <span class="caps">PCI</span> bus) need some stuff in the kernel. So you have to write kernel stuff in any case. So you can&#8217;t use <span class="caps">CUPS</span> as a pattern here.</p>
<p>Bye,<br />
Alexander.</p>
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		<title>By: Casper Andersen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.freebsdish.org/netchild/2006/09/24/trying-to-get-some-more-soundsystem-related-progress/#comment-1172</link>
		<dc:creator>Casper Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another note..

we have:
 cups - common unix printing system

can we have:
 cuss - common unix sound system
  or
 cuas - common unix audio system

with your involved in the sound system projects,
have you heard anything about such a wonderful idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another note..</p>
<p>we have:</p>
<p> cups &#8211; common unix printing system</p>
<p>can we have:</p>
<p> cuss &#8211; common unix sound system<br />
  or<br />
 cuas &#8211; common unix audio system</p>
<p>with your involved in the sound system projects,<br />
have you heard anything about such a wonderful idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Casper Andersen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.freebsdish.org/netchild/2006/09/24/trying-to-get-some-more-soundsystem-related-progress/#comment-1171</link>
		<dc:creator>Casper Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alexander

I hope this comment will not be left unseen and it will get a response,
if there is a more appropriate method for leaving a comment to you,
let me know.

Currently using totem I'm playing some mp3's.
sound: snd_ich
fbsd 6.2-RC1/releng
xorg 7.2-rc3
gnome 2.16.2

problem 1
* I hear momentarily lapses of sound, small breaks while
playing. Like the sound stream is disrupted. This is experienced
while cpu is under heavy pressure, which is common here.

I am wondering if there is something I can do to make the sound
stream fluent, or whether this is a general problem with the freebsd
sound system.

problem 2
now while at it.. flash and sound. the linux/unix flash player sound
system is currently based on ALSA, the linux sound system. is there
any development in the direction of courting the flash developers
to consider supporting a freebsd sound system model alongside
ALSA, or have there been considerations toward imlementing
an ALSA compatibility 'layer' ? Last I heard was that the flash
linux/unix team manager were open to other unix systems using
the flash plugin if possible (they changed from a license wording
that said it could only be used on Linux to a more general wording
that comforted the rest of the crowd, freebsd included).

keep up the good work.
Casper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alexander</p>
<p>I hope this comment will not be left unseen and it will get a response,<br />
if there is a more appropriate method for leaving a comment to you,<br />
let me know.</p>
<p>Currently using totem I&#8217;m playing some mp3&#8217;s.<br />
sound: snd_ich<br />
fbsd 6.2-RC1/releng<br />
xorg 7.2-rc3<br />
gnome 2.16.2</p>
<p>problem 1</p>
<ul>
<li>I hear momentarily lapses of sound, small breaks while<br />
playing. Like the sound stream is disrupted. This is experienced<br />
while cpu is under heavy pressure, which is common here.</li>
</ul>
<p>I am wondering if there is something I can do to make the sound<br />
stream fluent, or whether this is a general problem with the freebsd<br />
sound system.</p>
<p>problem 2<br />
now while at it.. flash and sound. the linux/unix flash player sound<br />
system is currently based on <span class="caps">ALSA</span>, the linux sound system. is there<br />
any development in the direction of courting the flash developers<br />
to consider supporting a freebsd sound system model alongside<br />
<span class="caps">ALSA</span>, or have there been considerations toward imlementing<br />
an <span class="caps">ALSA</span> compatibility &#8216;layer&#8217; ? Last I heard was that the flash<br />
linux/unix team manager were open to other unix systems using<br />
the flash plugin if possible (they changed from a license wording<br />
that said it could only be used on Linux to a more general wording<br />
that comforted the rest of the crowd, freebsd included).</p>
<p>keep up the good work.<br />
Casper</p>
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